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Mike Oxsaw 5:30 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
If these private Train Operating Companies can find the money to fund the drivers' demands then the government should instantly reduce the subsidy it gives these companies by exactly the same amount as they clearly don't need the cash to run the services they are contracted to provide.

penners28 4:20 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Mad dog. But you supported the strikes, from what i remember?

So how can you now be against the rail strikes?

RM10 2:33 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Yeh I could slap banker wankers, estate agents and CEOs!

Swiss. 2:20 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
ornchurch ammer 12:42 Tue Jul 12

Exactly as most white collar workers can wfh anyway on strike days. It's the medical staff, cleaners, food store workers and people with low paid shit jobs affected by these strikes.

Love to slap a few train drivers.

Vexed 2:13 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
It's difficult to have too much sympathy for train companies or their staff. Provide a shit service expensively and then take further liberties because they know they have a captive audience. Now is not the time to be mugging off the already mugged off paying public. Something has to give at some point, I hope they come unstuck.

collyrob 1:46 Tue Jul 12
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Lee Trundle 11:17 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike

So you believe people restart their break if someone says hello to them 😂

BRANDED 12:52 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
The abrdn Financial Fairness Trust and researchers at the University of Bristol estimated that 16% of households, or 4.4 million, are in “serious financial difficulties” and a further 20% are “struggling” to get by.
The findings illustrate the growing toll being taken by the worst cost of living crisis in a generation. The squeeze is set to intensify in October, when another spike in energy bills is expected to see inflation top 11%.
The pressure on the government to do more to help comes amid a period of political turmoil after Prime Minister Boris Johnson was forced to resign last week. In May, his government announced an extra £15 billion ($18 billion) in cost of living supporte but calls are growing for additional aid to be announced well before a successor for Johnson is chosen.

“Times are tough for everyone, but it’s those on the lowest incomes who are particularly feeling the effects of rising prices,” said Mubin Haq, chief executive officer of the trust. “Wages have largely stagnated and are no longer keeping pace with inflation; and social security is lower in real terms than it was over a decade ago. A more comprehensive and longer-term plan is urgently needed to ensure living standards do not sink even further.”
More than half of those polled for the Coronavirus Financial Impact Tracker consider their financial circumstances to be worse than during the early pandemic. When the same question was asked in October, only a third thought their situation had deteriorated.
The report published Monday described the lengths many are going to in order to save money. 

Of those in serious financial difficulty, 71% have reduced the quality of food they eat, 36% have sold or pawned possessions and 27% have canceled or not renewed insurance.

Steps to save on energy bills this year include bathing and cooking less, while more than a fifth of casual workers had stopped or reduced pension contributions. Single parents, social renters and households with children are being hit hardest.
“It’s particularly worrying that people are potentially storing up future financial problems for themselves,” said Sharon Collard, a professor at the University of Bristol.

El Scorchio 12:50 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Mike Oxsaw 6:10

In all fairness, the amount they have to do varies quite a lot from line to line. Victoria/Northern and some others are basically fully automated but Bakerloo line does involve properly driving the train.

ornchurch ammer 12:42 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
It’s always the ‘poor’ people that are affected by any strike.

Swiss. 12:05 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
That's 60% of a six figure salary for pushing a lever on a train their own little secure cabin.

Taking the piss for sure. It annoys me that poor people are affected by the strike and have to pay for taxis, ubers etc.

Cunts the lot of them.

ornchurch ammer 11:58 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
It’s got to be hard for any worker when they see people now getting upwards of £250k a week for kicking a football around.

legrandefromage 11:56 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
I dont see why people are moaning

Are you new to this forum?

scouse kid 11:50 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
I dont see why people are moaning. When it was Privatised they created far too many Train Operating Companies which allowed ASLEF to play each train operating company off against each other. Coupled with the fact that it was at that time a rapidly ageing working population amongst train drivers allowed them to rapidly increase wage levels

in fact over the last fifteen years train driver pay increases have actually slowed down compared to what they were in the first 15 years since the sell off

Lee Trundle 11:17 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
collyrob 8:33 Tue Jul 12

No, I'm explaining what they can get away with.

ray winstone 11:13 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Solidarność!

collyrob 9:51 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Mad dog

That’s not what he asked

Mad Dog 9:09 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Penners.

I've never been on a strike

collyrob 8:33 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike


Lee Trundle 10:39 Mon Jul 11
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike

Ah I see, so now you’re equating someone saying hello with being asked to do something on your break.

Mike Oxsaw 6:10 Tue Jul 12
Re: Train drivers on £60k to go on strike
Those "drivers" sat in the front of London Underground trains don't even drive them; just open and close the doors and push a button when the doors are closed.

Alfs 3:31 Tue Jul 12
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Typically it takes between nine and 12 months to become a qualified train driver. Having completed a medical examination, trainees are required to demonstrate an understanding of the rules and regulations, mechanical knowledge, route knowledge and 200 to 300 driving hours, initially this may also include some work on simulators. Trainees also need to complete a Personal Track Safety (PTS) certificate.

Years and years, my arse.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:30 Tue Jul 12
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Network Rail have nothing to do with train drivers, mate.

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